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doncarlito Jun 1st 2008thanks fredrik,im really interested to learn,looking forward to your upcoming tutorials..forgive me if i requested too much,truely greatfull,thank you :)
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shaheertarar Jun 4th 2008I would really want to see a tutorial on creating a realistic desk environment or something of that sort
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Noodles Jun 4th 2008I would love if there were more guides on theory. I do enjoy learning specific techniques. Ranging from the basics to really advanced stuff. But its the theory that really allows you to put that in use. Either way, I'm happy. As you guys put out great, quality, tutorials.
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MikeWilson
Jun 4th 2008
Posted By: NoodlesI would love if there were more guides on theory. I do enjoy learning specific techniques. Ranging from the basics to really advanced stuff. But its the theory that really allows you to put that in use. Either way, I'm happy. As you guys put out great, quality, tutorials.
That's my area of choice as well, I think Knowledge and theory can go a lot further than tools can.
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Noodles Jun 4th 2008Although there is a lot of stuff on this. Color theory is very important. The pallet you use in a logo, website, or anything, can really make or break how appealing it is. Even if the design behind it is amazing. I know we've all seen that.
One thing I'd really like to learn myself is the little things that really allow your logo to stand out. And it really is the little things. Something as simple as an barely notice gradient can make somethign more appealing. Or subtle lighting. I think there is a ton of stuff like that. That not many people know, or ever pick up on. But that is more about techniques. I really do feel though, that you can make a good concept be spectacular, with the little things. At the same time though. People also need to understand that adding too many of these, little things, can be the downfall.
One type of theory I don't think I've seen covered, that I know I could use help in. Is actually what I kind of first mentioned. Taking what you know, and applying it to other work. For example, I tend to see people just simple combine tutorials to create something. And I really feel that limits their creativity(I know I tend to have that problem). You need to be able to get out of that box, and really make good use of what you learn. Instead of just making different things using the same techniques. I think there should be a theroy behind getting out of that mental block you put yourself in, and a way to expand your mind, really harnessing what you learn. Because really, most tutorials you "trace" things. And end up "tracing" similar things. If you understand what I mean.
Oh, and I know there can be sites out there that oyu already know covered it. But the content itself, isnt always enough. You guys cover tutorials I've seen before. But you cover them in a way, that sets you apart. And I almost feel like I'm relearning, and taking more from what I read. Even if the bare bones of it, was exactly somethign I've already seen. Its the little stuff. Those little comments at the end, can almost teach you more than the tutorial itself. But I guess that is one that I cant explain very well.
But really, I don't think I could list anything of great importance. Because the things I dont know, I cant conceive in my head. So I'm not really able to comment about it. But if things do come to mind, I'll happily say them. You guys are really great. Nothing but really quality content that you cant find other places. -
Pseudonym Jun 5th 2008
I think Knowledge and theory can go a lot further than tools can.
While I agree that theory is important for a foundation in understanding any art from, I would argue that learning the tools of the trade may be the single most important thing you can do, and that goes doubly for Photoshop and the digital world. This does assume that one really learns how the tools work, and not just specific work flows.
Without fully understanding the tools, and being able to predict their behaviors, you can barely fill the canvas with a solid color; where as you can certainly continue to play with composition, color, and all the other *theoretical* elements with ease when you know how to manipulate them. -
Noodles Jun 5th 2008You are right. If you don't understand the core fundamentals of using a program and its tools. Implementing your idea wouldn't be possible.
But that's why I had said that I'd like to see more theory. There are a lot of places to learn the tools themselves. but beyond that, unless you're in school. you tend not to be taught the theory of things. Now eventually in time you'll evolve in your own way, and pick up on them. But being taught them, can really speed up your learning process. -
MikeWilson
Jun 5th 2008
Monkeys can learn photoshop.
It's a matter of application, in which theories and ideas are predominant. -
Pseudonym Jun 6th 2008 editedI guess for me, theory is often something that I can't really learn from someone else. Professors can preach about rhythm and shape and weight and value and pattern for hours on end and I still don't really get it until I experiment with it on my own, without the restrictions of an assignment.
In photography, for instance, I find it incredibly helpful to just walk outside and start taking pictures, and reflecting on what works and what doesn't. Often more helpful to me than it is to sit in a classroom listening about somebody elses' experience, or sitting in front of a computer screen reading about what someone else has learned.
Obviously photography and Photoshop are two very different realms, but I think it illustrates my point a little better.
Don't mean to be a buzz kill though. It would be really cool to hear what everyone else has learned from their experiences in tutorial form. -
MikeWilson
Jun 6th 2008
I also agree with that, but not.
When professors of design teach you about symmetry, rule of thirds, the golden ratio, all that junk, they don't expect you to explicitly use those ideals, rather, they are looking for you to naturally, without thought, add those elements into your designs. With the theory I'm talking about, along similar lines, but more relevant and useful, can be applied consciously and not, providing both fronts.